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okay it says i am live so

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here i am um hi this is the saucer life

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2022 preview and a little bit of 2021

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year in review and a special treat later

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on um a very small treat thanks to a uh

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a listener who

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gave me uh gave me a heads up that this

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particular thing existed so what are we

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doing here okay

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2021 was a

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pretty big year for the show we went to

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a bigfoot convention in

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what was sort of a

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sort of trial pilot episode for what

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would become great lakes lore

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our second chiso podcast that is out

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there we did a full cast audio drama for

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the holiday special

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weekly

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sneak preview i'm not sure schedule wise

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i'm going to be able to pull that off

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entirely in 2022 but even though the

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i don't know some of those saucer

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afterlife episodes got a little long

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sometimes anyway

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big stuff coming up in 2022 um including

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a a lot of topics that people have been

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asking for

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for a while now sip of uh sip of beer

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for the working podcaster

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it's um

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a creme brulee nitro stout from southern

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somewhere in new york so

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some topics coming up in 2022

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that people have been asking for

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what we're going to have and i'm not

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saying when in 2022 these topics might

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come about but

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they will be coming about in 2022 i will

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tell you now

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we are going to be doing

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the gulf breeze six

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not the gulf breeze sightings

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necessarily they're boring and fake but

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the gulf breeze six if you know about

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that then you know it is a weird weird

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story and um apart from roswell i think

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it's probably one of the most actually

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almost none of my listeners have ever

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requested i do a roswell episode because

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they know me better than that

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we're going to be doing the gulf breeze

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6. we are going to be doing

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an episode on

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bill moore's

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speech to the 1989

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mufon convention in las vegas or

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conference not convention

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conference convention that uh where he

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basically said yeah the government is is

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running disinformation ploys against

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ufologists and using some of you and i

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sorry paul benowitz and uh and well

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maybe not so much sorry but um yeah so

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bill moore's uh bill moore's mufon talk

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from 89 is going to be part of things

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to be looking at a ufologist that

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days although he was he was a name in

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flying saucer circles back in the day

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camera not the screen and also a name in

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the comics industry and that is otto

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binder author of the book flying saucers

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are watching us as well as some other

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low-key cover i've ever seen although i

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typography it's kind of fun

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another thing we're going to be doing

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and and this is uh this is a topic that

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associate of this person at some point

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about uh some other sort of mysticism

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and um that is sorry looking over here

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william dudley pelly this is his

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and it's uh we got a comment from oh

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from the saucer wife she says bender who

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is different than bender you might be

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thinking of al binder al bender but otto

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going to get those two words completely

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confused but um

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so william dudley pelly this is a life

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in right-wing extremism and the occult

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um and uh he does have fun pants sam

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these are these are fascist pants those

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are or horse riding pants out fascist

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war ii and then when he gets out he

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can't be involved in political stuff

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anymore and he'd always been very into

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flying saucers so we're gonna be that's

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alien-based but we're going to look at

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the works and experiences of the late

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has been requested by various listeners

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at various times very interesting story

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military abductions

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do an episode on it and i am so millabs

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these but all contactees are not

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forceful connotation abduction things

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we discovered alien bases on the moon

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just this white box with fred steckling

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unevenly put on there fred steckling was

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a a supporter of george adamski and uh

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how are you all i hope you're all fine

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hope you had a good um end of the year

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um i'm going to reveal

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the first topic that we are covering

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when the saucer life returns on january

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14th that's our return and then the

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following monday on the 17th

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17th yeah 17th uh great lakes lore will

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be back for its uh it's winter run of

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episodes as well but we on the saucer

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life are going to be looking at

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george damski's cosmic philosophy he had

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an entire workbook

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of his cosmic philosophy that would be

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sort of used in study groups and the get

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acquainted program that had branches all

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over

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amazing and one of those branches was in

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japan and in our episode about japanese

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contactees and malaysian monsters

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we looked at the newsletter of the

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georgia damski get acquainted

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organization and one of those stories

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that we didn't cover in there because

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it's massive we're going to start we're

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going to be covering throughout the year

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dipping in and out at various times and

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that is i'll make this bigger um the

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story of um a contactee a young man a

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young japanese man who visited other

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planets and his story was recorded in

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the get acquainted program japan

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newsletter by hachiro kubota who i think

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was the man who ran the entire um

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george adamski get acquainted program

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japan thing so we're gonna be looking at

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cosmic philosophy we're going to be

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we're going to be looking at um

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at that we're also um we're also let me

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make myself bigger here we're also going

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to have some zine scene episodes and one

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of them in particular is going to look

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at four issues make this a little bigger

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here four issues of something called the

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alien digest that came out back in uh

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back in the early 1990s by someone named

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creston and he had a real name too but

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um

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i'm not going to reveal that now but we

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have mj 12 in the greys good aliens

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helping us question mark common

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abduction and medical exam procedures

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there's no more early 90s um

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thing out there than this i believe and

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we are also going to be looking at i

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believe i think i'm going to take the

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plunge on this

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it is the

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oh let me see let me do some let me do

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some math here it's 2022 and this was

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1997. it is the 25th anniversary

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of the hale bop

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heaven's gate thing it's the 25th

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anniversary of heaven's gate this year

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isn't it

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so yes we're going to be looking at

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courtney brown's remote viewing of the

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supposed object behind the hellbop comet

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and the controversy that flurried and

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fluttered around that and um and the uh

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heaven's gate sort of i think heaven we

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might do heaven's gate too we might do

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sort of a multi-part heavens gate and

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then courtney brown thing for the 25th

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anniversary actually i think that sounds

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uh sounds like a pretty

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like a pretty great idea

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so those are some things we've got we've

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got coming up this year i did have

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i think i had a year's worth of topics

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written out and i'm not sure

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um if

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i still do uh on on the uh

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this is embarrassing for me to say on

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the other show um

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having somebody else to work with helps

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keep me a little more organized

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sometimes but um

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yeah we mentioned cosmic philosophy i've

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got some ideas here cosmic philosophy

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george dempsky's book um we're going to

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do the mill abs we're going to do the

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japanese contact d shoiichi harakawa

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we're going to do william dudley peli

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we've got some zine scene we've got bill

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moore mufon

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i am going to

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right now the plan is to look at serpo

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the serpo thing um

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maybe just the serpo releases themselves

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as a narrative story

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rather than the entire serpo controversy

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because

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jessup

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we're going to be looking at some of the

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research done by

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um

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a guy named who called himself

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branton

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yes brampton um

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yeah branton if you've read adam go

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rightly's book um saucers spooks and

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kooks uh you may have had uh had some

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some brandon in your life uh paul

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kimball good friend of the show and good

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friend of mine says he's jealous of the

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inside of my tardis yes yes they have

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let me get away with redecorating the

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console room here which is which is

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pretty nice and serpo is 110 real he

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says

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it is absolutely a real thing that

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exists i

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i cannot doubt that

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um yeah gulf breeze six we're going to

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be looking at um

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kimball needs an ed comarrec episode oh

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boy that's tempting that is i did buy

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his book um which is to say he was

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giving it away free on amazon so

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i do own i do own his uh his book

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oh oh that's another another big story

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we're going to do that i can't believe

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we haven't done before

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we are going to do

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the cash landrum event from texas in uh

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in the early early 1980 i think i i

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i teach history for a living but i am

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terrible with dates because you can just

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look that stuff up right um

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so yeah cash landrum um

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i was you know i was planning on at some

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point doing a um a woodbridge

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um left at eastgate thing um

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but i think it's almost new um

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new it's almost too complicated at this

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point daniel says branton messaged

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hundreds of people on twitter in the

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past year to check out his angel fire

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site

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oh my goodness um angel fire still

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exists i found that out the other day

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that angel fire still exists which is

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amazing

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um

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and i'm gonna have to to check out

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branton's angel fireside

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sherry shriner always linked to a bunch

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of branton stuff which

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i thought was actually pretty

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appropriate really

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paul kimball says can he really own

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i should say

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i possess a copy

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that was acquired in a legal manner

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i should i should say that i i i possess

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a current

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and legitimate license to read the words

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i guess is the the proper ebook

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digital media way of of saying it

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however i do own a microphone which is

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which is nice

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okay

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i think to finish up what i'm going to

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show you this was in a link sent to me

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by a listener

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um in december

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the janos people or janos people

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remember that a space barbecue very

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suburban

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the family was interviewed on atv which

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was one of the um one of the independent

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sort of privately commercial private

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commercial

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channels in britain

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and this listener pointed me to a

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video clip on an archive site and i am

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presenting it here it's just three

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minutes long so we'll close out with

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this and then i'll come back and say

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goodbye to all of you but um

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this is and you can watch my reactions

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as we watch this but this is

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this is pretty interesting these are the

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actual people who supposedly met

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the janos people it was late on the

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night of june the 19th 1978 and the man

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family mum dad their two young daughters

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and an aunt were driving along this

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lonely oxfordshire road near farringdon

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when they pulled up and got out to look

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at a strange light in the sky

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john mann a self-employed builder who

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never used to believe in ufos told me

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what happened next

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well i got out of the car and

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was about to walk towards this

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flying saucer that we saw up close

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and gloria and my wife panicked and told

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me to get back into the car which i did

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and we drove off but apparently

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we found out later that the flying

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saucer then came out into the road and

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stopped the car

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when the whole family got out and

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we were surrounded by a mist of light

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and floated up into the flying saucer

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we were given a

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very brief medical examination and then

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shown around their ship

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[Music]

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where we were allowed to ask questions

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uh later

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the flying saucer moved to further down

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the road approximately about a mile

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where we were dropped and put back down

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and our car was there waiting for us

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were you able to find out much about

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them about what they were doing why they

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were here

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their own planet had been destroyed and

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they are now looking for another planet

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where they can live

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what did they look like these people

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from janos

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um well the women's at my height

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very fair quite attractive some of them

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and the men were about

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john's height probably taller and they

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were very fair as well very fair

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actually and they spoke english they

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spoke english to us yes when they spoke

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to each other they spoke another tongue

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what about the spaceship itself francis

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what was that like

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well it was very large um we think

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there's probably four stories we

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certainly went up some um ramps

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it was really like being in a submarine

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only much larger

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lots of corridors that went round

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lots of machinery on the walls in the

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medical room particularly and um

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not so much in the restaurant there was

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just one machine on the wall there where

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they've got drinks and food

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tanya you were only a little girl at the

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time what do you remember of the

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spaceship

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i remember when mommy had a drink

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and she said that my free to like jelly

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oh yes

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because i was scared because you're only

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a very little girl at the time weren't

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you yes

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natasha what about you what do you

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remember about that flying source from

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the people on it first of all i

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remembered sakia's lady she was looking

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after me and she took me into this room

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where i saw pictures but these are some

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drawings that you made about what

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happened what do they show what's on the

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all

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this was when dad stopped the car and we

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looked at the flying saucer

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this is zacchaeus and she looked after

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me i'm on the flying saucer and she

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showed me the pictures

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i must ask you this though aren't you

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going to make a lot of money out of this

560
00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:31,039
proceeds from the sales of your book

561
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um i don't think so no

562
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i mean if nothing to be made i wouldn't

563
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we'll have some expect but

564
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do any of you now have any doubt at all

565
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that it really happened

566
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:44,880
none whatsoever we

567
00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:47,280
didn't see a ufo we saw a flying saucer

568
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all right

569
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:55,360
we're fading out

570
00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:56,960
all right um

571
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:58,559
i like how i can sort of show videos in

572
00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:00,400
here that's and and that little bit of

573
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merchandising at the end where they show

574
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:04,960
the book reminds me that before we go i

575
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:06,880
should probably

576
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:09,600
tell you all that i have a new book out

577
00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:11,919
uh conspiracy and triumph theories of a

578
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:13,760
victorious future for the faithful which

579
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,000
is about positive conspiracy theories

580
00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:17,760
conspiracy theories with happy endings

581
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where we're not all

582
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:23,039
hauled off to um a fema camp because

583
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:25,440
we're you know right thinking

584
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:27,360
patriotic whatever country we live in

585
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:29,679
people but rather that

586
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:30,960
once

587
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:35,360
the conspiracy is

588
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,960
once the bad guys are gone the good guys

589
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:38,320
are gonna win which isn't how a lot of

590
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:41,360
conspiracy theories go so um

591
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:45,440
i look at the nasara financial scam i

592
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:48,000
look at q anon and i started working on

593
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:50,400
this before q anon ended up being

594
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:52,000
nearly

595
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what it was when it was sort of like a

596
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:55,200
weird little corner of

597
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,880
4chan and then it sort of blew up and i

598
00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:58,640
was by that point i was sort of on the

599
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:00,159
hook to write about q anon so i'm not

600
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:03,600
happy about it but um from the ufo

601
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:05,120
alien

602
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:08,240
flying saucer point of view i've got a

603
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:11,679
section on exopolitics particularly

604
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:14,640
richard boylan and stephen greer and

605
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:17,200
michael sala especially

606
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:18,880
especially grier's earlier stuff like in

607
00:24:22,630 --> 00:24:20,960
the episode we covered

608
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:22,640
and how

609
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:25,039
michael sala and some of his ilk have

610
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:27,120
sort of drifted into

611
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:29,520
some of those more political conspiracy

612
00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:31,760
areas so um

613
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:33,760
this one was so exhausting to write that

614
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:36,159
it probably will be my last book i'm i'm

615
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:38,960
hoping so but uh because it's hard man

616
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:41,919
it's hard writing a book but um that's

617
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:44,559
out there now you can um go to amazon

618
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,520
and find it um i think the e-book is 13

619
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,240
bucks i did not set the price um

620
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,960
because i didn't publish it so

621
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:54,480
the publisher said the price but it's

622
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:56,880
it's for an academic press it's

623
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,600
it's uh it's it's a good price so anyway

624
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:01,919
commercial over um

625
00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:04,480
thanks for uh thanks for watching and

626
00:25:10,269 --> 00:25:06,159
thanks for supporting the show

627
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:10,279
throughout 2021 all the way back to

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2018

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20 2017.

630
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i can't remember it's been four or five

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years

632
00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:20,640
i can't remember anyway it's been a

633
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:22,640
while um so thanks for supporting the

634
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:24,400
show thanks for supporting great lakes

635
00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:25,679
lore and

636
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:27,760
our new endeavor over there um there's

637
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:29,840
more stuff coming from us this year it's

638
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:32,159
uh it's gonna be fun so thanks a lot

639
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:34,480
thanks for the comments and questions